[Theforum] Re: [min] #evolt on IRC

Daniel J. Cody djc at members.evolt.org
Fri Dec 21 15:23:03 CST 2001

you seem mighty PO'd about something martin that seems like it goes deeper
than an IRC channel. care to share?

On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, Martin wrote:

> On Friday, December 21, 2001, at 05:10  pm, Daniel J. Cody wrote:
> > i look at irc as the corner pub complete with profanity and even worse
> > spelling(yes it is possible!) and a more casual attitude
> No, that's thechat. It gets the pub tone just right
> If we label a public space as *evolt* it must follow what
> *evolt* is about. I think you may have forgotten, so here
> it is again:
> 'Evolt.org is a world community for web developers, promoting the mutual
> free exchange of ideas, skills and experiences.
> What "evolt" means: "evolt" combines the best elements of evolution,
> revolution, with a bit of voltage thrown in for good measure. "evolt"
> embodies our goals and enthusiasm!'
> Nowhere does that say "evolt.org is a place to be abusive
> about fellow members of the *community*"
> And besides, "what IRC is all about" is as arrogant and
> misguided as the kiddies who think they know "what the
> web is all about". Just because *you* have an idea doesn't
> make it so. This is not the #dan show. It's the #evolt show.
> And probably the majority of members will think "Hey,
> #evolt is a space to go and chat to evolt members", like
> thechat, but in realtime.
> Adrian's absolutely right - if we're promoting #evolt
> to the membership, it needs to be one of two things:
> 1) A place where *community* is built
> 2) Heavily caveated with warnings along the lines of
>    "Sure, go to #evolt. But you'll find that the people you
>     used to trust are abusive arseholes. And you won't trust
>     them any more. Or evolt. Here's the form to unsubscribe
>     which you'll probably be wanting later on."
> Dan, if you want a space to be abusive in private, have
> one which isn't evolt. Call it #dansabusivewhiners if you
> like, but don't call it #evolt.
> Oh, and if it's an evolt public space, it should be publically archived.
> Like this one is. Like thechat is. Like thelist is. Like thesite
> is. Like theforum is. It's the same argument.
> Martin
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