[Theforum] Re: [Content] E-mail Addresses in Archive

Martin Burns martin at easyweb.co.uk
Sat Oct 26 14:41:29 CDT 2002

(sent to theforum as it pertains to the Zen of evolt)

On Sat, 26 Oct 2002, Dean Mah wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 26, 2002 at 05:40:24PM +0100, Martin Burns wrote:
> > On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Dean Mah wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, Oct 26, 2002 at 01:40:21AM +0530, Madhu Menon wrote:
> > > > At 01:29 AM 26-10-02, Dean Mah wrote:
> > > > >Out of curiousity, how do you contact john if the e-mail
> > > > >address is obscured like that?  If we do this across the board,
> > > > >some people might want their e-mail address to show up.
> > > > It's only in the archives. It's a trade-off. We don't have a
> > > > sophisticated membership management system like Yahoo, so we
> > > > make a choice. Regular members already have a copy of the post
> > > > in their email, so...
> > > ... if you are reading this from google and want to contact the
> > > author directly, you can't.
> >
> > If you're reading it from Google and aren't subbed to the list in
> > question, either
> > 1) You've chosen to be nomail so don't think seeing the addresses is
> > important enough
> > 2) You're not subbed anyway, so we shouldn't consider you as important as
> > those who are subbed.
> Interesting perspective.  I've always believed that we should be
> building community but also that we should be providing answers and
> support to everyone that needs it.

I don't disagree, but I think our first responsibility is to our current
members. One of the things our current members are pretty hot on is not
receiving unnecessary spam, so we need to strike a balance which still
provides some support for non-members while giving current members the
level of support they need.

To a certain extent, we do that already by blocking non-member posting to
lists, to keep our members' mailboxes free from spam. And we also allow
system-recognised members to see more info (eg recent comments)  and do
more (eg ratings) than anyone else.

That's not to say we completely exclude non-members, but the path to
getting that stuff is easy: register. Become a member - it's easy, and
free. If someone doesn't want to come to the party, then we don't have an
obligation to deliver beer to them. If they do, great - the fridge is over
there in the kitchen.


"Names, once they are in common use, quickly
 become mere sounds, their etymology being
 buried, like so many of the earth's marvels,
 beneath the dust of habit." - Salman Rushdie

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