[theforum] update time

Dean Mah dean.mah at gmail.com
Wed Nov 17 15:08:58 UTC 2021


Thanks for all of your hard work and money in keeping the site up and
going for as long as you have. Thanks also for your stewardship for
the last little while and I trust and agree with your decision to put
evolt.org into cryostasis. It's been a good, strange, ride, and I'm
glad to have been a part of it.


On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 5:58 PM William Anderson <neuro at well.com> wrote:
> hi all,
> i figure it's time for this mail to go out.
> - finances and resources
> some of you may have seen a flurry of emails from paypal and google
> adsense. basically dave has gotten in touch with me over the last
> wee while, and has reassigned control of some key assets to me: the give@
> paypal account, the godaddy account, and the google adsense account. here's
> the status:
> there's $409.66 in the paypal account. there hasn't been a donation from
> anyone who wasn't me in over 3 years. i started paying for the digitalocean
> account (where cerf and postel, the two virtual servers that currently
> drive evolt live, costs about $18 a month) in october 2019 when payments
> weren't being made any more from the paypal account. i'm going to have to
> move that balance to another paypal account given that the OG one was in
> Dave's name and citizenship for tax purposes, and the bank account backing
> it for withdrawals is now closed.
> the godaddy account has the evolt.org domain name in it. it's due for
> renewal on the 18th of december. i'm likely going to move that to my own
> domain reseller account on or before that time. the evolters.org domain was
> not renewed last year, not that we really used it.
> the google adsense account had $19-ish in it, again backed by the now
> closed bank account so we couldn't get a payout (nowhere near the payout
> threshold to boot), so i've shuttered it. i'm figuring out how to get that
> all sorted again so ads in the browser archive and the list archive can
> fund infrastructure costs for the future.
> - the future
> there hasn't been an email to thelist since may, and only a handful last
> year (in january and february). there's been no real email to thechat since
> march 2015. this is the first email to this list since like 2018. it feels
> like evolt is properly asleep now, and i'd like to propose cryostasis.
> as a wrinkle, we still host the css-discuss website and list on eric
> meyer's behalf, so i'll need to liaise with him to see what needs done
> there; they still have a sprinkling of messages being sent to that list, so
> it's likely something that needs moved rather than put into stasis.
> to that end, who has objections to:
> - the mailman lists being closed
> - the mailman lists being archived and made available as-is
> - the evolt.org sites, including the article archive, remaining online but
> even more static than before
> - the virtual machines being reduced (i.e. from postel + cerf to just cerf)
> or cancelled to limit further cost
> if there are no objections by the end of the year, i'll proceed with
> figuring out the best way to tidy stuff up.
> thanks gang, 23 years is a long time for anything to be A Thing.
> -n
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