Ben, I hope you don't mind, but I'm bringing this over to thesite (the list devoted to discussions of, well, the site) so that some others can have some input. I think your points are good points, and I'd rather not make unilateral assertions without letting other people take a whack at my logic. > > Yeah, we use 'accesskey' attributes on the form elements to meet WAI > > and Bobby accessbility standards. > > After a few minutes' thought this occurred to me. It's fantastic > thing to do in principle, and I support it enthusiastically. Good. Dammit. > I just question the wisdom of assimilating a macro that's already set > aside for a function available to at least two-thirds of the site's > users, since the same alt-key-combo is used in IE4 as well. And those > with impaired mobiilty will definitely use the macro in question (as I > know firsthand, having discussed the subject some time back with a > quadriplegic who used to - and may still - maintain a Geocities page). > > I personally am not impaired - I just like to keep both hands on the > keyboard unless I'm just-browsing, and even then I often use the > keyboard to navigate. Agreed. While my own testing with impaired users hasn't shown this, that suggests I need to do more testing. One thing we might want to consider is gathering the alt-key combos from the major browsers and making those off-limits. But that begs the question, what if we run out of letters? Do we dump the accesskey attributes? And who can we blame for this, browsers or us? I need blame to made. > > Unfortunately, we can't account for the how the browsers handle it, > > and we also can't account for every letter in the alphabet > > considering all the browsers out there. > > I suppose not, but one would think on the grounds of common sense that > the Alt-key macros for NN & IE menu items would be used cautiously. Agreed, but that's the thing about common sense, it's an oxymoron. Either way, yes, I did consider that, but clearly my decision was based on my own perceptions. So, is it better to kill the accesskeys or force users to use the mouse? I don't know that answer... > > We discussed this one for a while, and figured we'd try it. You're > > the first to specifically comment. > > ...Which bothers me, but that's another thought for another time. That you're the first to comment on it? Anyway, verboten letters from the windows browsers i use regularly: IE5: f, e, v, a, t, h N6: f, e, v, s, g, b, t, h N3: f, e, v, g, b, o, d, w, h O5: f, e, v, n, b, m, g, s, w, n Any others?