On Thu, 1 Mar 2001, aardvark wrote: > > Ben, I hope you don't mind, but I'm bringing this over to thesite (the > list devoted to discussions of, well, the site) so that some others > can have some input. I think your points are good points, and I'd > rather not make unilateral assertions without letting other people > take a whack at my logic. Go for it. > Good. Dammit. *chuckle* > Agreed. While my own testing with impaired users hasn't shown > this, that suggests I need to do more testing. One thing we might > want to consider is gathering the alt-key combos from the major > browsers and making those off-limits. "Me too." > But that begs the question, what if we run out of letters? Do we > dump the accesskey attributes? And who can we blame for this, > browsers or us? I need blame to made. As the list at the bottom shows, there are still plenty of letters to play with once you get through the most-important stuff. when everything is said and done, you've got lots of keys to work with. With three keys to shift bit positions, and a long list of barely-used function keys, there are lots of possibilities. Or mahybe I'm just optimistic because I've seen kanji being typed into a computer, in person. > So, is it better to kill the accesskeys or force users to use the > mouse? I don't know that answer... If certain macros are ascribed to under unwritten rules... well, there's definitely a problem there. However, I think it'd be possible to have the cake and eat it too. What's discomfiting is finding a solid info architecture for documenting the macros employed on the site. > > ...Which bothers me, but that's another thought for another time. > > That you're the first to comment on it? Yep! Maybe I was a Luddite in a previous life. :-) > Anyway, verboten letters from the windows browsers i use regularly: > > IE5: f, e, v, a, t, h > N6: f, e, v, s, g, b, t, h > N3: f, e, v, g, b, o, d, w, h > O5: f, e, v, n, b, m, g, s, w, n > > Any others? Alt [sp] & Alt-F4, though Windows may itself put the latter off limits. Well, an investigation of Ctrl macros seems advisable as well. O, P, X, C, V, A, F, R, N, B, L... -- Ben Henick Web Author At-Large http://www.io.com/persist1/ persist1 at io.com "Are you pondering what I'm pondering, Pinky?" "I think so, Brain, but... (snort) no, no, it's too stupid." "We will disguise ourselves as a cow." "Oh!" (giggles) "That was it exactly!"