Whew, Isaac, you hit the nail on the head. So (borrowing from theprocess) I move that we make the following official: "On #evolt, idlers are left alone, to idle as long as desired." Yays and nays welcome. Anyone want to construct terms around my motion before people vote? Like a day for opinion and discussion, etc.? Or can we all just agree and save ourselves the hassle? Thanks, Marlene >My concern is this: > >Relatively new evolt.org member decides to try #evolt. Enters channel. >Things are quiet or a conversation of little interest to them is being held, >so they minimise their client and work, while occasionally checking the >channel for action (of interest). They do this for most of the working day >(2-5 hours). > >Now, Dan doesn't know this person and wants to have a private conversation. >Sees that they've been idle for a few hours (2+, given that it's "IRC >etiquette"). Kicks them. Then bans (due to an auto-join). > >Now, if they're reasonably new to IRC, they may not understand when and why >this happened. They can't understand why they've been banned. They spread >the word of their experience. evolt.org's reputation is lessened. > >If, instead, we (a) left idlers alone, and (b) didn't kick idlers >specifically to have a private conversation in a public, community channel, >this problem would not have occured. > > >We have all of 5 people in #evolt right now. Can we afford to be kicking >*anyone* out whether they're idling or not?